Joseph Joachim

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  Question Re The UN and The R & F.

  by Englishman in

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  is it common knowledge amongst the jw's about the wt being an ngo that was linked to the united nations?.

  or is this information just in the hands of a few elders?

  i'm intrigued as to whether this information about the un has begun to trickle through to the r & f yet, and i'm also wondering if publishers will have a ready made answer (other than a library ticket)should they be confronted with this objection during the door to door work.. englishman.. bring on the dancing girls!

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  I think it was a tactic mistake to induce WT's disassociation from the UN. Now they can cover up the whole thing more easily.

  Joseph Joachim,
  an overly-enthusiastic pundit of borderline reality
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  All say it with me:"Shake the shackles off...

  by BritBoy in

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  it seems to me that this board of late is on fire!!

  almost every post has little fires burning outside it.

  what is going on, volatile posts and replies?

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  when are going to shake those JW shackles off

  It takes time. Coming out of JWdom is a long process. I had been out for 4 years when I discovered "apostate" sites, and even then I felt a certain uneasyness at first. And I have a thick skin! But we're dealing with very deep emotions here. That's why I reserve my most poisonous and insidious attacks (whoa!) for long-time apostates and spare the newbies

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  Quality of this Forum

  by stevieb1 in

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  just a quick thought - i am a firm believer in freedom of speech etc, but having been on this forum for some time i honestly can't say that i can introduce a doubting jw interested in true christianity to this board.

  some of the deep discussions on jw doctrine are excellent, but everything else seems to be nonsense in my opinion.

  why can't this site be more like the old www.witnesses.net which seemed to have more spiritual meat rather than backbiting, gossip, and rumour and even obscenity.. sorry for my frank opinion

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  you apologiesed for expressing an opinion

  Hey Abaddon, he's probably American. Apologizing is the second most practiced sport in the US (the first one is sueing each other).

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  Quality of this Forum

  by stevieb1 in

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  just a quick thought - i am a firm believer in freedom of speech etc, but having been on this forum for some time i honestly can't say that i can introduce a doubting jw interested in true christianity to this board.

  some of the deep discussions on jw doctrine are excellent, but everything else seems to be nonsense in my opinion.

  why can't this site be more like the old www.witnesses.net which seemed to have more spiritual meat rather than backbiting, gossip, and rumour and even obscenity.. sorry for my frank opinion

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  most of them are very skeptical of anything "religious,"

  WRONG

  Most of us are skeptical about everything, not just religion. Being skeptical does not mean you don't believe; it means that you demand sound proof before you believe. For instance, I don't believe in UFO's. Show me a flying saucer and I will believe; but don't tell me "that black spot in the garden was made by a spaceship yesterday" because that's not good enough for me. The same with religion; show me evidence that the Bible is inspired by God, and I will believe.
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  Bisexuality

  by gilwarrior in

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  it is just me or are all the women on this board bisexual?.

  just a thought.. "three people can keep a secret...if two of them are dead.".

  benjamin frankin - "poor richard's almanac"

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  Hey Abbadon,

  Take the EuroNight train to Zurich and I will make you BI even if you ain't no girl. You can bring your girlfriend along so I too know what being BI feels like.
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  Screen Name vs Character

  by Amazing in

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  since my character is part of the issues that have been addressed by several posters, i thought that i would clear this up:.

  teejay said: conclusion: no more insulting than you when you mentioned that one has to wonder about someone who'd pick the screen name "amazing.".

  i am not sure if teejay shares agreement with what he quoted, but for discussion sake, i will treat it as though he does.

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  While I was posting you replied to Tina. Glad to see your memory is back.

  JJ
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  Screen Name vs Character

  by Amazing in

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  since my character is part of the issues that have been addressed by several posters, i thought that i would clear this up:.

  teejay said: conclusion: no more insulting than you when you mentioned that one has to wonder about someone who'd pick the screen name "amazing.".

  i am not sure if teejay shares agreement with what he quoted, but for discussion sake, i will treat it as though he does.

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  When I joined H20, I initially used the term "Simply Amazing" because it captured my reactions to many things I have been learning as a result of leaving the JW religion. Some here may recall my initial use of the full term.

  Actually, I remember more than that. I remember that your screen name was "Annointed", and "Simply Amazing" was your signature. You introduced yourself as someone who claimed to be of the annointed while a JW; that was a red flag for me at the time (and surely for some others). The Society says that young people who claim to be of the annointed either have psycollogical issues or are looking for prominence (or both); I agree with the Society on this one.

  His Holliness has to be very careful in this board, because some of us has better memory than Him.

  Joseph Joachim, an overly-enthusiastic pundit of borderline reality
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  Rex's road to Armageddon?

  by unclebruce in

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  in a post yesterday, englishman asked "please name 'just one' atrocity done in the name of atheism".

  i offered the crimes of gengis khan, stalin and mao tze tung.

  i would have liked a discussion on that, but such as life is on a discussion bored, it never eventuated.

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  the plastic Jesus brigade with thier loud mouthed preaching and 'last days' mentality can be dismissed as harmless and uniquely American

  Hello Uncle,

  I didn't read the whole post, but this that you say about American fundamentalism is true. I've lived in South America, the US and now in Europe, and only in the US I have seen that fundamentalists are considered mainstream. That's why they make me laugh when they say that JW are a cult; in Latin American and in Europe, JW, Pentecostals and Evangelicals are all put in the same bag.

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  Jehovahs Spirit-Directed Earthly Organisation

  by Englishman in

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  i just want to get back to some basics here, this post is not meant to take the mickey.. i am of the opinion that the above-mentioned phrase is something that jw's absorb into their sub-conscious minds over a long period of time, with the end result that they actually do believe that jehovah does indeed operate through this organisation.. can someone please take me step by step through this essential belief of jw's, right from when the idea of an earthly org was first mooted.

  i can't find any scriptural backing for this belief at all, not one tiny bit.

  even if i really stretch and link isolated scriptures there just does not seem to be any basis for belief here at all.

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  More to the point of your question: by cleverly selecting parts of Acts you can "prove" (fundy style) that early christianity was a homogeneous movement under the leadership of the Apostles, so that you could call it, in effect, an "earthly organization". Of course you have to ignore Paul's letters, especially Galatians, but then again Dubs and fundies never read the Bible to get the big picture, they just look for proof texts.

  Coupled with this is the (wrong) idea that today's christianity should resemble first century christianity. If you set that as your standard, you are forced to discard all mainstream christian churches, because nothing could be further removed from the unpopular and persecuted little sect that christianity originally was than one of today's main churches.

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  Jehovahs Spirit-Directed Earthly Organisation

  by Englishman in

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  i just want to get back to some basics here, this post is not meant to take the mickey.. i am of the opinion that the above-mentioned phrase is something that jw's absorb into their sub-conscious minds over a long period of time, with the end result that they actually do believe that jehovah does indeed operate through this organisation.. can someone please take me step by step through this essential belief of jw's, right from when the idea of an earthly org was first mooted.

  i can't find any scriptural backing for this belief at all, not one tiny bit.

  even if i really stretch and link isolated scriptures there just does not seem to be any basis for belief here at all.

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  Well I can't tell you step by step through this belief, but I will tell you how I used to see things, having been "born in the truth". I thought (or better the dubs made me think) that if there was a God (which I didn't doubt at the time) there had to be one true religion (and no more than one for obvious logical reasons). By properly demonizing other religions, specially catholicism, the Society convinced me that there was only one acceptable religion left: The Truth! So, in my case, it wasn't so much what they said for their supposed Spirit-direction but what they said against other religions.

  Joseph Joachim, an overly-enthusiastic pundit of borderline reality